The search for AF447 continues

by Jonathan on May 12, 2010

From the Associated Press:

The French accident investigation agency says a search in a new area of the Atlantic for the Air France plane that crashed en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris has turned up nothing.

The zone was located by analyzing signals from the plane’s black boxes, which are still unrecovered.

The investigating agency said in a statement Wednesday that nothing was found in the ocean depths.

The conclusion came just two days after the agency said the plane, which crashed June 1, 2009, could be found by Wednesday.

Investigators say they have decided to return to the original search zone, northwest of the last known airplane position — while continuing to determine the accuracy of the black box signals, which long ago died out.

The BEA issued the following press release today:

Exploration of the new search zone, which resulted from work undertaken by the French Navy, has continued at a speed that has been hampered by technical problems, which occurred during the dives carried out by the two Remus (Autonomous Underwater Vehicles).

After ensuring optimal coverage of the entire exploration zone, the BEA has decided to start searching again in the initial search zone located to the north-west of the last known airplane position. The Seabed Worker should reach the zone tonight.

However, the BEA, in collaboration with teams from the French Navy, will continue to work on the accuracy of the data communicated by the Ministry of Defense.

The BEA will give a further update on the situation with a press release on Monday 17 May 2010.

This is really getting frustrating. They should simply keep searching and not give us any high hopes. If they’re going to conduct a search operation, they should conduct the operation until the end, without issuing press releases saying that they’re pretty sure that the wreckage is going to be located in a certain area while they aren’t 100% sure.

Associated Press
BEA Press Release

  • #535

    Unbelievable. Maybe they are just doing it wrong? Ok, don't want to accuse anybody, i hope they know what they are doing. I am wondering, how much will it cost to explore the whole area? It is clear, that the plane should be somewhere.

  • Chris

    I can tell you this, if this had been an expensive, critical US military plane, they would have had the whole the damn Navy searching for it in the area within a few days. These idiots took over 2 weeks just to start looking for the pingers with just ONE stupid submarine! I was asking it at the time why the hell they were taking their time when the pingers were wanting to be found. Now they shall all remain at the depths never again to be disturbed.

  • claudio

    Jonathan, I totally agree with you, it's extremely frustrating.To me it doesn't seem they are making much effort.The plane should already be found .At least the main wreckage, that is HUGE and no matter how is the seabed, something that big should be found after 3 searches that lasted a month each.It's really unbelievable.As someone said above, the plane's gotta be somewhere there.I could understand that they can't find the black boxes, but an A-330 is definitely not small.And I'm wondering if they explored the area REALLY WELL.I'm now doubting the two Remus.Do they work alright?I really hope they do.And if they do, the areas they explored so far are really wrong.So they better keep searching really well.The search shoudln't end before may 25 right?So they have at least another 12 days and if they didn't find anything hopefully it will keep going until they found something.

  • claudio

    Chris, it is so true.I totally agree.Seems they couldn't care less, really.They took their time and lost 2 weeks for nothing.They won't find the black boxes anymore, but they should really at least find the main wreckage of the plane and possibly the other 170+ bodies.At least that.They knew exactly where the plane was at 2.10 and the plane crashed only 4 mins after.How hard it can possibly be to find the plane?In 4 mins the plane didn't go that far so the search area should be quite limited.So, what's up with all those searches that turned up to nothing?

  • #535

    I also thought about that. Just think about it, for example they continued to fly 950 km/h. If the flight lasted for 4 minutes, we have an area with a 65 km radius (roughly). Now, here is a quotation from BEA's press release :
    The work, undertaken with the assistance of IFREMER and SHOM, allowed completion of the exploration of the search area that had been defined after the accident, a circle with a radius of 75 km centred on the last position message transmitted by the airplane at 2h10.

    Were they exploring the ocean surface only?

  • Ginger

    Just so you know about the Remus…. My husband works for the company that manufactures them and stayed out there an additional 30 days, missing a family event in order to try to make this event a success.

    The Remus are working fine, and the press release that was sent did not have correct information. Since the time they left that smaller search zone, they have covered over 600 sq km of sea.

    It's incredibly deflating to the crew on board, as they want this to be a success as much as everyone else does. They do indeed care….. however, they also can only do so much a year after the wreck occured.

  • claudio

    It seems so…too many things here don't seem right.Enough to get me quite suspicious :)

  • Natalie

    Just wondering if there has been an update?

    As per the article “The BEA will give a further update on the situation with a press release on Monday 17 May 2010.”

    I haven’t located anything on the net. I am interested in knowing where things stand.

  • Bill A

    This plane was flying at cruise speed of approximately 500 mph or so, they didn't fall straight down. These two factors make the search area huge. Then, once the plane hit the ocean, what about currents? There was a storm that was a contributing factor in the crash. SO, the way I see things is, that the plane didn't fall down in a straight line, rather on an angle, there was no communication with the plane so no one knows exactly where it was when it went down, did it try to turn around to go back to Brazil? When it hit the water, did it break into little parts or stay mostly in one piece as there were many forces at work.

    The ocean floor is not flat like the pool in your back yard, there is 2 miles of water between the searchers and the ocean floor. Go outside and look straight up, inagine your at the ocean floor and that 2 miles straight up is the surface. How easy do you think it would be to search the ocean at that point. Plus the water pressure at that depth will surely crush some of what is left of the plane, large or not.

  • Bill A

    I commented below. Seems someone is being very critical and not realizing the work involved here, especially from those actually working to find this wreckage.

  • #535

    There was a press release:http://www.bea.aero/en/enquetes/flight.af.447/inf... They didn't find anything yet. I think a press release on 25 May will be the last.

  • Ginger

    Thank you for your comment. My husband left for this trip on March 21, and I know that the ship has done everything in their power to try and make this a success. Another part of the problem is that the guys that are leading this trip kept changing their minds…. going 15 miles north to go 20 miles south, etc…. instead of just searching in a more schematic approach.

    It's been a year, and as you said, the water pressure would be incredible at that depth (2-3 miles below the surface). He's been pulling ridiculous shifts, trying to make sure everything is in working order. the vehicles work for 20 hours roughly before coming back up to be recharged and sent out again….. plus troubleshooting if something isn't working to full capacity to get it back in the water as fast as possible working at an optimum level.

    Thank you again for your support….. I'm just looking forward to my husband's safe return and seeing him this Friday. We all wish the mission was a success, but know that they did everything in their power the past two months to try and bring closure to those family members……

  • Amy
  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JonathanAdmin JonathanAdmin

    I got excited when I saw this report. Unfortunately, it's not from Air France..it's from a rocket.

    Thanks for the link!

  • Måns Nilsson

    Where are the latest posts? Have you removed them?

  • Andrew Boyce

    Jonathan, what has happened to all the recent posts on here? Including the ones for the first anniversary?

    PS – if you email me, I have a picture I can provide you with of the memorial to the victims in Pere Lachaise Cemetery in Paris.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JonathanAdmin JonathanAdmin

    I'm not sure what happened to the latest posts. Thanks for letting me know. I will take a look and see what's going on.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JonathanAdmin JonathanAdmin

    The posts should now be visible again. There was a problem with one of the plugins..everything is back the way it should be.

    Thanks for alerting me.

    Jonathan

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JonathanAdmin JonathanAdmin

    Everything should be back to normal. There were some technical difficulties; nothing was removed.

    Thanks a lot for alerting me.

    Feel free to email the pictures to AirFranceAF447 [at] gmail [dot] com.

    Thanks, again.

    Jonathan

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